Say WHAT?

[lovesrain44]

I am beguiled by this fan's decision. I understand her love for Show, her desire to show the gang at SPN how MUCH they've influenced us, etc, but shoving fanfic in their faces is not a good idea. 

Here's the link:

http://community.livejournal.com/spn_legacy/

Here's what I said:

"It's rather a blatent disregard of all fannish conventions that I've ever encountered to require that a fanfic writer needs to tell you NOT to include his or her stuff; it should be the other way around. Besides which this is not a good idea. It doesn't even matter that you're disincluding those genres of fanfic that you feel would be disrespectful (slash, wincest, etc), what matters is that if you force our creations on them (as others have said), then you force them to acknowledge what we're doing out here. And I for one would not want to see that. Also, if any actor, ANY actor, wanted to find him or herself out here in the fannish beyond, all they have to do is google themselves and they'll get a huge list. So they don't need a book like this. Put your resources and your energy into some other means by which to show your love and your passion for Show, that's what I think."

Most comments that people are making are not wanky, thank goodness. I just hope the whole thing dies down.  





 

Comments

[lori-leaf.livejournal.com]

Oh god, what a terrible idea. And apparently the entire internet agrees with us since she got ONE response for people submitting their work, and almost a hundred of people going "hell no!"

Not to mention that many actors try to avoid fanfic because it makes things messy. It's hard to create a character from scratch, and it's a really bad idea to let too many people tell you how THEY think your character really is. It's a big ettiquette thing in theatre or films. Unless you're the director, you don't tell another actor how to play their character. So it's easier to avoid fanfic in general.

And then there's the legal ramifications... *facepalm* Why doesn't she just ask the boys if they read Wincest at a con like every other horribly awkward fan? At least then it's like ripping off a bandaid. The uncomfortableness would only last a few minutes instead of being commemorated in book format.

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

Exactly. People have already shown the boys fanfic/wincest, they've been asked about it, they know it exists, why keep shoving it at them. And no way do I want my stuff read by the J's. I have no filters on at the moment, I'm free to write what I want. I'm sure you feel the same, as do many many other fans. If I thought the J's had hold of my stuff? I'd be tighter than a virgin, and wouldn't be able to write a thing. I don't write for them! I write for me, for US. Fuck.

What really kills me is because she's being lazy, ha ha, she wants us all to tell her NO, we don't want to be included. Blast and botheration.

[lori-leaf.livejournal.com]

Okay, I'll be honest... I checked out her profile and laughed and laughed at her glorious "plan". (I must secretly be a bitchy high schooler.) She warns people not to be offended if they don't make it into the book. After all there will be SO MANY reccs that not everyone's piece can be included.

ONE person recced something. She has four pages worth of comments from authors NOT wanting to be included.

And dude, I got a special journal simply so I could write and comment on fic. I WORK in the industry. The last thing I need is for coworkers to discover exactly how much I love characters.

What I don't understand is why people think it's okay to do creepy things, if it's done by a large quantity of people? I've had someone make a website full of pictures of me. That's creepy. If that person turned it into an album and combined it with OTHER people's pictures of me... it wouldn't be any less creepy.

And for the record it's REALLY damn creepy when you find an physical album full of pictures of you. I've had two different guys "accidently" show me their albums of me. Another guy just admitted he had a wall of photos. Dude, it's CREEPY. And I'm not even working in tv or film right now! That's just from doing regional theatre! *shudder* I feel a lot of sympathy for actors who are viewed nationally. Psychos tend to flock to actors. I've experienced how horrible it is on a small scale. I have no desire to experience it on a national scale.

Dammit... now I feel guilty for reading RPS again... Why must GOOD writers write RPS? I don't want to read it. It makes me feel like a creepy person... but then it's just so gooood... *facepalm* I'm a bad actor. Someday justice will be served and someone will write creepy real person porn about me and some other chick.

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

You know, there's nothing wrong with RPS. I don't get it myself, I have been known to read one once when Amalthia assures me it was funny as HELL (which it was), but really, it's just the faces and the names because the person writing it doesn't know anything about them. Not like they do Sam and Dean. But you know, more power to them, if that's what they want to write and it makes them happy, why not? As with you reading it. It hurts no one, pushes some buttons you need pushing and everyone goes to bed happy. What would be creepy is for someone to collect RPS and give it to an actor. Creepy is someone stalking you, which is sounds like they have. Not fun. Not something I would ever want to go through.

I'm pretty sure this chick has a mad crush on the J's, as do we all, which is fine, we're SUPPOSED to think they're hot and have crushes and that's what makes the money roll in when we buy calendars and amulets and pictures by the score. What she's thinking, I think, is that this is what's going to make them notice her. It won't. She'll get noticed by lawyers first, and then get US noticed by lawyers and then the party will be OVAH.

I love the characters too! I tell no one at work. EVAH. : D

[lori-leaf.livejournal.com]

I got bored and clicked some links and I get the definite impression that the person running this project is early twenties TOPS, and the ones telling her it's a good idea are high school or college students. Of course bad ideas aren't something that's limited to the under 21 crowd.

I have two huge fears when it comes to acting. The first is I won't get enough jobs to feed myself. The second is, I'll end up famous. Crazy people like famous people too much. I don't want that. I just want to tell stories.

[aelfsiden.livejournal.com]

Very nicely done. :) I agree with everything you said.

[keks80.livejournal.com]

What a horrible idea. I really hope she reconsiders doing this.

[sheafleur.livejournal.com]

Aside from the obvious reasons this idea is a bad one, I don't appreciate her attitude. This is in the user info of the comm in regards to slash, rps and wincest:

"The point of the collection is to focus on fiction that is the very best for in character Sam and Dean, and I feel like if it's going to be well received and respectful of our boys, those types should not be allowed.

I hope that makes sense, I don't want to ruffle any feathers, but I want it to be pure Supernatural fic, not fangirl fantasy fic.

Pure Supernatural fic? those types?? fangirl fantasy fic???

Some of the very best SPN writers those types, and she's the one with the fangirl fantasy. I have no delusion that if I write only complimentary, sweet Gen fic that Jared and Jensen will fall in LUV with me.

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah, definately. You can't make distinctions like that, fiction is fiction, and all fanfiction is pure as the driven snow. She's new apparently, and had no idea...but still.

I'm glad to be one of those types. : D