Wincest "When" Poll

[lovesrain44]

[Poll #1286101]

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[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

I meant to add....please feel free to add links to fic that proves your theory!!

[lupina78.livejournal.com]

Hey!! *waves*
Just stopping by bc of your very interesting poll!! *giggles*
Me has votet!! gg
What a great idea for a poll! Thanks for it!!

*greetings from Austria*

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

Thank you for voting! Which one were you and why? (Just curious...)

[ckll.livejournal.com]

I voted for the third option although i suspect that something may happened before Sam goes college

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

I like this....do you have any particularly good fic to rec that goes along with this idea?

[ckll.livejournal.com]

Shall i rec any of mine? lol
I don't read many fics the last months to rec.

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

Rec away! I love first time stories. : D

[lupina78.livejournal.com]

gg

Of course I votet for "after Heart"...though I´m a Dean!girl, Sammy was soo sweet and hot in this ep..and his sadness is perfect to hug first, then kiss afterwards and.....*has naughty thoughts* gg
and the second reason is..hey - my name is Lupina - who is the queen of wolves (and werewolves..gg) so I vote for my relatives..;0)

[ckll.livejournal.com]

Thank you :D
'Hanging by a moment' in http://community.livejournal.com/dean_sam/249969.html / http://community.livejournal.com/dean_sam/304894.html / http://community.livejournal.com/dean_sam/367885.html / http://community.livejournal.com/dean_sam/386485.html / http://community.livejournal.com/dean_sam/397159.html
Something bad happened to Sam and Dean realizes some things (teenWinchesters series)

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

Hey, thanks! I got a paid account as a gift and one of the funnest things has been these polls!

I think there's lots of different points at which wincest could have occurred...one of my pet ideas is that if the thought entered their minds before John came on the scene, his arrival put the kibosh on the whole thing, but this only intensitfied it for them. Personally? I think it happened after John died, even if underaged stuff happened, his death would have been a catalyst and a release.

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

How kind, how marvelous! Thank you!!!

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

Absolutely! I tend to agree with you on your logic there - Sam would have been in an interesting state at that time, maybe asking for Dean to love him and not realizing what he was asking for.

It's interesting to me how early on people thought all this started!

[ckll.livejournal.com]

Thank me if you like them ,lol

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

To tell you the truth, I have no clue. But I will admit to laughing at this poll. XD

Alright, fine... I'll taka stab at it and say the next to last option. Can you imagine how hot and utterly heart-breaking that would've been?

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

kay! They're in my "to read" list!

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

Oooooooooooooh! Very angsty! And cruel! I like it! Let me know if you run across any fic like this, eh?

[alwaysenduphere.livejournal.com]

Wow. I can honestly say I've never actually tried to pinpoint the spot when I thought Sam and Dean became SamnDean. It's one of those..."eh, just happened" type things.

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

That's okay. I'm just anal like that...had some thoughts, and wondered what othere people thought. Did you vote, then? Nor no?

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

Will do. In fact, my Muse may inspire me to write it myself. :3

[lupina78.livejournal.com]

Well, thank you!!! gg

Oh, I wish it would be more early...like pre-series..but back then they weren´t as close as they are now...so I guess, pre-series wouldn´t work....

May I ask you something? I read through your user info and there are some interesting things on your interest-list...have you ever heard of

http://community.livejournal.com/kink_club/profile ???

some friends of mine and I are running this comm...and I guess you´ll have fun there...just take a look!!!

*hugs*

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

Oh. OH. Yes, well....WELL. I'd love to read that, I can tell you!

There would definately be tears....yes, and sobbing....

[lfg1986.livejournal.com]

Lol, I think you had the right idea here w/ the poll. I've actually asked my very flist this same question many times, but I did it more of a general question, not giving poll options, so I never got any clear answer. But I have to say, I really think it could be SEVERAL of these options. I voted for right after season 2, after Dean makes his deal, just cause I think that was a turning point for both of the boys. They both had to realize and come to terms w/ just how much they were willing to sacrifice for the other. I think Dean always knew he WOULD, but the fact that he DID probably in turn made Sam see things in a new way about his brother. And poor Dean, he was so glad to have Sam back, I'm sure it would have been easy to go to that next level w/ Sam at that point.

My second vote would be right after Mystery Spot, when Sam finally realized what Dean must have gone through when Sam died, and he in turn was so desperate to have Dean back, that things could have very easily escalated once Dean was back w/ him. Same thing w/ right after 4.01, except the way Sam's been behaving this season, I'm not really thinking that would be the case. He seems far too detached right now, as opposed to Mystery Spot.

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

I'm with you...I think that Dean was very protective of Sam growing up, but they weren't as close all the time as they seem to be in the series. I mean, I love, love, love underage stories, or stories where the brothers are super close. But really, boys growing up fight a lot...

But hey! Thanks for the link!! Oh my yes, it's likely that this link will prove fruitful! I'll go and take a look after work. : D

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

Well, how nice of you to say! I've been wondering this question myself for some time, and like you, have not gotten a satisfactory answer. My first responses indicated to me that how dare I even try and make this issue canon, and then I was reminded that wincest was NOT canon...which completely misses the point! So I've waited till I could figure LJ out and ask the question in the right way....hence this poll.

I love the logic you apply to your answer, and your description of why. The key thing you point out here is escalation - which is an important factor in their relationship. If they're not already having sex, then something external would bring them together. Either, like you say, Dean's deal, or Sam's misery during Mystery Spot.

(PS, I love your icon!!)

[chasingtides.livejournal.com]

I think that it would be one of those gradual things. They were living in each other's pockets, learning to rely upon each other again, losing the people they loved, and somehow they would realise that they loved each other and could depend upon each other and always have each other. (So, yeah, probably before All Hell Breaks Loose.) And I think it would be so gradual that you couldn't pin point one spot.