I know what you mean - but i think the certain date was just figure of speech - it was a process for Dean - being tortured in hell and as in every process with something strong there's breaking point. It doesn't matter whether it happened in 30 years or in 32 for example the important part is that it happened.
I buy non con as a regular part of the torture, personally. Oh, no doubt there. I buy it too. I meant that it wasn't non con (and only non con) that broke Dean. But as part of the tortures? Def it was there. It's all complicated cos what he said is words - not the real images (cos for us it's easier to understand with words and pictures that we can interpret) but really in hell Dean had only soul w/o the body so technically he couldn't be raped or something - it's more like the images for us to understand the level of torments.
or is it just that they never considered that he COULD break? Me, I think it's the latter, because he seems such a strong character Yes, i know. But you know what the more interesting part is? That Dean wasn't broken. He was on the level he wasn't be able to hold the torture anymore and he started to torture himself but he wasn't broken on the level he'd doesn't care of what he does. I mean - he's still suffering from what he did. It can do only a person that care. The care is the first symptom of human. So yes, he did awful thing down therŅ cos it was his way of coping but he didn't give it up completely. The thing he did hurt him more than the souls he tortured - so his conscience is intact. *if it has sense...*
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I buy non con as a regular part of the torture, personally.
Oh, no doubt there. I buy it too. I meant that it wasn't non con (and only non con) that broke Dean. But as part of the tortures? Def it was there. It's all complicated cos what he said is words - not the real images (cos for us it's easier to understand with words and pictures that we can interpret) but really in hell Dean had only soul w/o the body so technically he couldn't be raped or something - it's more like the images for us to understand the level of torments.
or is it just that they never considered that he COULD break? Me, I think it's the latter, because he seems such a strong character
Yes, i know. But you know what the more interesting part is? That Dean wasn't broken. He was on the level he wasn't be able to hold the torture anymore and he started to torture himself but he wasn't broken on the level he'd doesn't care of what he does. I mean - he's still suffering from what he did. It can do only a person that care. The care is the first symptom of human. So yes, he did awful thing down therŅ cos it was his way of coping but he didn't give it up completely. The thing he did hurt him more than the souls he tortured - so his conscience is intact. *if it has sense...*