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Monday, December 1st, 2008 04:00 pm

This is in reference to the 4.10 ep, Heaven and Hell, where Dean gives up the goods at the end and tells Sam the reasons why he doesn’t want to talk about hell. We find out the awful truth: that in order to stop the pain, Dean got up off the rack and became a torturer himself.

 

I realized I want to know WTF happened after 30 years that made Dean suddenly change his mind. I mean you don't go through 30 years of torture and then wake up one day and say screw this, do you? (I’m pretty sure Sam feels the same, but he’s being a Good Brother and giving Dean his space. For now, anyway.)

 

Maybe, after 30 years, maybe he hit his breaking point, maybe he got tired of Alistar coming by EVERY single day and just hit his limit.

 

When Dean said, at the end of Wishful Thinking, “…the things I did, the things I saw…” I instantly thought/figured/hoped that there was non-con between Dean and Alistar, because I’m whacked that way, and I kind of thought THAT would be the reason Dean broke. Not that he suddenly gave up one day. Or maybe Hell used Sam in some way, something that Dean thought was Sam.

 

What's most interesting to me is the fact that fanfic never considered that Dean could be broken, that he would make the choice he did as presented in canon. At least not the fanfic I’ve read. (I would be willing to be shown the error of my ways, however.)

I'd love to know what other people think!

Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 03:07 am (UTC)
I'm kind of disappointed if that's what did happen it wasn't more spelled out. But I have to remind myself this is not HBO or Oz.
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 03:20 am (UTC)
I'll wager that they didn't really think about why Dean broke at that time, rather than earlier or later.

Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 03:21 am (UTC)
that and this is the CW. Edgy isn't exactly their style.
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 03:43 am (UTC)
Exactly.

I guess the answer I'm looking for is, "OH, I know the perfect story! Let me get you the link! It's got non con!"
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 03:52 am (UTC)
man, I'm waiting for someone to write this story too. :)
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 03:54 am (UTC)
Oh you mean you're not?
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 03:59 am (UTC)
do I sound like a person that has a life? or time to write really hot filthy rape fics. :)
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 04:12 am (UTC)
Why, yes, actually, you do.......
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 06:19 am (UTC)
no I don't!!!! I can't even get my homework finished! I swear a snail could have finished this faster than me. :)
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 07:13 pm (UTC)
Well, what the hell are you doing on LJ then???? (she said sternly)

: D
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 09:09 pm (UTC)
I think they have a term for this called procrastinating. :) I could be wrong...but it does seem to fit the bill. :)
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 09:27 pm (UTC)
You're only days away from finishing, hang in there!
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 10:14 pm (UTC)
Trying. I'm getting a little done each day. Last night I finished another section and I'm getting closer to the finish line. :)
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 11:06 pm (UTC)
it's due this Friday at 10pm central. :(
Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 11:07 pm (UTC)
You'll make it!!! Just keep on plugging, and look forward to your vacation.