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Monday, December 1st, 2008 04:00 pm

This is in reference to the 4.10 ep, Heaven and Hell, where Dean gives up the goods at the end and tells Sam the reasons why he doesn’t want to talk about hell. We find out the awful truth: that in order to stop the pain, Dean got up off the rack and became a torturer himself.

 

I realized I want to know WTF happened after 30 years that made Dean suddenly change his mind. I mean you don't go through 30 years of torture and then wake up one day and say screw this, do you? (I’m pretty sure Sam feels the same, but he’s being a Good Brother and giving Dean his space. For now, anyway.)

 

Maybe, after 30 years, maybe he hit his breaking point, maybe he got tired of Alistar coming by EVERY single day and just hit his limit.

 

When Dean said, at the end of Wishful Thinking, “…the things I did, the things I saw…” I instantly thought/figured/hoped that there was non-con between Dean and Alistar, because I’m whacked that way, and I kind of thought THAT would be the reason Dean broke. Not that he suddenly gave up one day. Or maybe Hell used Sam in some way, something that Dean thought was Sam.

 

What's most interesting to me is the fact that fanfic never considered that Dean could be broken, that he would make the choice he did as presented in canon. At least not the fanfic I’ve read. (I would be willing to be shown the error of my ways, however.)

I'd love to know what other people think!

Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008 07:06 pm (UTC)
Okay, as long as you understand the sexy back thing.

Lips of doom. Funny you should say that. In my last review, I said he needed chapstick like nobody's business. : D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemming

"Due to their association with this odd behaviour, lemming suicide is a frequently-used metaphor in reference to people who go along unquestioningly with popular opinion, with potentially dangerous or fatal consequences." (In other words, lemmings follow without thought, they follow what's popular.)

People who go. (That is used for inanimate objects.) : D
Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008 07:17 pm (UTC)
Thank you. LOL!

That whole 'who' and 'which' and 'that' thing makes me nervous. It's used so often in German language but I never know which one (!) to use when talking English. I guess I was sick when they teached that in school. :(
Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008 07:27 pm (UTC)
"who" is a pronoun. You use it as a subject. Like "Guess who's coming to dinner!"

that and which set off clauses. I'm sure it's similar as to the usage rules in German, since English is essentially a germanic language.

That sets off restrictive clauses, which are parts of the sentence that must be there for it to make sense.

Which sets off non restrictive clauses, which you can take out and the sentence will still make sense.

Are you sorry you asked? I have a BA in English and a masters in Linguistics.... : D
Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008 07:35 pm (UTC)
No I am not sorry at all! I just copied the whole thing. There I have it in a few sentences.

I know that you have a BA in English and a masters in linguistics, lol!

It's just that German is much more complicated in the sentence structure. And I always have problems if I stop thinking in English and try to translate my German sentences into English. I guess that's why I don't want to write in English. And writing porn in German is uuugggh! Bah!
Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008 07:40 pm (UTC)
Did I already brag about that? Sheesh. That's just lame of me.

So...sounds like you should just write in English!

Why is writing porn in German not fun?
Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008 07:47 pm (UTC)
Because this language just sounds wooden, you know. Complicated, stiff (and not in a good way, lol)and not sexy. Not at all.
That's why Germans don't talk dirty in bed. At least not without laughing out loud. Like me. In my youth. :DD
Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008 07:55 pm (UTC)
It's all those compound words, I tells ya!

Like...

"oh, my little girl-with-the-bosom-that-is-not-like-a-pair-of-rocks"

Just takes the romance right out of it!
Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008 08:08 pm (UTC)
Bwahahahaha.. yeah, thank you. I just spit on my screen. LMAO!!!
You're right. As a German you have to specify EVERYTHING. And while talking dirty you are either laughing your ass off or feeling insulted. :D
Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008 08:28 pm (UTC)
You are welcome! I live to serve. : D