odd observation about long distance caller

[lovesrain44]

 Spoiler for ep.....

So I'm wondering if it was just me....during that last phone call from John to Dean, John says, "I love you, boy."

And since the monster of the week had a tendency to add, "Come to me," I found myself not paying attention to the plot at ALL at that point.

I think my brain broke something, it jumped to daddycest so fast. I'm sorry, but it's true. Dean, when he got the first phone call, was so happy to have Dad's orders to follow again. Plus, don't dads say, "I love you, son," rather than "boy?" I must tell you, the word "boy" is one of the most provocative words to me. Along with "back" and "whipping" - you say any one of those and I'm squirming in my seat. 

I could see (in my pervy brain) this whole little dark story unfold before me....where Dad and Dean had had something, some kind of relationship, maybe sexual, maybe just the leaning thing...but before they could, you know, go all the way and fuck, Dad died. So here is Dad, after death, acknowledging that relationship. Maybe they used to have sex in the dark, and Dean needed to hear those words. Now he hears them. 

"I love you, boy, come to me." A dark humid motel room...Sam gone. Rusty bedsprings. Outlines and profiles. Hands. The scruff of beard and a whiskey soft voice. 

I'm not really sure how I'm supoosed to go to work today with that in my head.

Comments

[sheafleur.livejournal.com]

No joke. I just downloaded the episode and I'm watching that scene over and over.

"I was looking after Sammy like you told me to."

"I never wanted this...never. I love you. You're my boy. I can't watch you go to hell, Dean."

"I'm sorry...."

The whole time Dean is pacing and panting, and the "I'm sorry" really got to me. He sounded like a little boy, like daddy's boy who knows he's in trouble.

Yeah, my mind went right to daddycest too. :-)

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

The funnydark thing about that whole conversation, is that even though it's NOT John, in that it's that monster thing saying this...well, it's interesting to consider WHERE the MOW got these ideas of what to say from. Is he pulling them from Dean's brain? This seems likely, because even before there were phones, the MOW would wait in the woods and connect somehow with his victims. So, he's connecting with Dean and he's telling him EXACTLY what he wants to hear.

So, the whole "I love you, you're my boy" is what Dean wants and needs to hear. Since if someone were listening in to the conversation, we know that they wouldn't hear the MOW. Only the victim does. So the conversation is rather in the victim's head.

As to why Dean needs to hear "You're my boy," well then. That's where the daddycest comes in. I think, "You're my boy" has a WHOLE lot more daddycest implications than "I love you, boy," (though I still like the idea of him saying that....) Don't most moms and dads say "You're my child"? I mean, would a mom or a dad say, "You're my girl?"

And you know...I think that John is the only one Dean's ever said, "I'm sorry" to. Like John's the only one Dean will submit to. (Oh, did I just use the word submit in an un-sexual way. That's a new one!) And Dean saying I'm sorry...okay, I can totally see it now, thank you. It's been over a year since Dad died, and he reverts to son mode so fast...Hey, Dean, just line up for the spanking and get it over with while we watch.

[sheafleur.livejournal.com]

This episode and this thread has totally re-invigorated my daddy-muse! I love you boy," is the hottest thing ever! That line needs to be in some fic, and fast!

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

Some fic by SOME one, yes. I recommend you, frankly.

I can barely concentrate on work myself.

I mean, COME ON!!! "I love you, boy?" ??????
Why on earth did I hear "You're my boy?" But by golly, that's just as bad. And the whole "come to me" yeah, that could get used.

Just use the word "boy" in a fic, and I'll be a puddle at your feet.

[lori-leaf.livejournal.com]

I second the nomination!

Jesus, this whole conversation has me distracted now.

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

Tell ME. I've got John's voice in my head over and over and over...."I love you. You're my boy." The fact that he said it THAT way, yeah, there's loads of meaning in it. Plus the word boy, in addition to the personal button it presses for me, has connotations of ownership and domination

The kisses would be hot. And powerful. And now I need a cold shower.

[amalthia]

It wasn't that particular line that got to me, it just the whole set up and how shattered Dean seemed by this phone call.

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

Well, sure, the whole idea of how Dean reacts to John's phone calls really says something about how much he misses his dad. Or that he misses someone snapping out orders, which Sam tends not to do. I'd say that yeah, that last conversation was very telling...both in his need for a dad, and his need for this particular dad. Or the relationship that the "you're my boy" line seems to evoke.

Just. Guh.

[lori-leaf.livejournal.com]

He stayed up all night just hoping John would call him! *heart breaks* Oh Deano... He totally needs his daddy (in both a porny and non-porny way.)

[lovesrain44.livejournal.com]

It breaks my heart too, the fact that he so desperately needs/wants to be somebody's "boy."

So there's another story there....he tried to be Sam's boy, but Sam wasn't having it. So now Dean is desperate....