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lovesrain44 ([personal profile] lovesrain44) wrote2008-12-01 04:00 pm
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Why Did Dean Break After 30 Years and Not Before?


This is in reference to the 4.10 ep, Heaven and Hell, where Dean gives up the goods at the end and tells Sam the reasons why he doesn’t want to talk about hell. We find out the awful truth: that in order to stop the pain, Dean got up off the rack and became a torturer himself.

 

I realized I want to know WTF happened after 30 years that made Dean suddenly change his mind. I mean you don't go through 30 years of torture and then wake up one day and say screw this, do you? (I’m pretty sure Sam feels the same, but he’s being a Good Brother and giving Dean his space. For now, anyway.)

 

Maybe, after 30 years, maybe he hit his breaking point, maybe he got tired of Alistar coming by EVERY single day and just hit his limit.

 

When Dean said, at the end of Wishful Thinking, “…the things I did, the things I saw…” I instantly thought/figured/hoped that there was non-con between Dean and Alistar, because I’m whacked that way, and I kind of thought THAT would be the reason Dean broke. Not that he suddenly gave up one day. Or maybe Hell used Sam in some way, something that Dean thought was Sam.

 

What's most interesting to me is the fact that fanfic never considered that Dean could be broken, that he would make the choice he did as presented in canon. At least not the fanfic I’ve read. (I would be willing to be shown the error of my ways, however.)

I'd love to know what other people think!

[identity profile] aknutzen.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
when i first watched the episode that was actualy the first thing that sprang to my mind, and even my husband and friend agreed with me about that. i could see that breaking dean where nothing else in hell would, seeing as how dean was always the one in control with sex and ya know along those lines.

[identity profile] lovesrain44.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Ooooh, I like the way you think!

And what if, to sweeten the pot, Alistair took Sam's form and did the deed? Oh man. That's mean.

[identity profile] aknutzen.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
lol, yeah that would be great. And kripke is probably as horrable as we r, otherwise we wouldn't have all the little parts in the show that feed our 'active imaginations' lol.

[identity profile] lovesrain44.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Too bad we'll never see the likes of this on canon!
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[personal profile] amalthia 2008-12-02 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm kind of disappointed if that's what did happen it wasn't more spelled out. But I have to remind myself this is not HBO or Oz.

[identity profile] lovesrain44.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'll wager that they didn't really think about why Dean broke at that time, rather than earlier or later.

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[personal profile] amalthia 2008-12-02 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
that and this is the CW. Edgy isn't exactly their style.

[identity profile] lovesrain44.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

I guess the answer I'm looking for is, "OH, I know the perfect story! Let me get you the link! It's got non con!"
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[personal profile] amalthia 2008-12-02 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
man, I'm waiting for someone to write this story too. :)
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[personal profile] amalthia 2008-12-02 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
do I sound like a person that has a life? or time to write really hot filthy rape fics. :)

[identity profile] lovesrain44.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Why, yes, actually, you do.......
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[personal profile] amalthia 2008-12-02 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
no I don't!!!! I can't even get my homework finished! I swear a snail could have finished this faster than me. :)

[identity profile] lovesrain44.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, what the hell are you doing on LJ then???? (she said sternly)

: D
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[personal profile] amalthia 2008-12-02 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they have a term for this called procrastinating. :) I could be wrong...but it does seem to fit the bill. :)

[identity profile] lovesrain44.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
You're only days away from finishing, hang in there!
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[personal profile] amalthia 2008-12-02 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Trying. I'm getting a little done each day. Last night I finished another section and I'm getting closer to the finish line. :)
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[personal profile] amalthia 2008-12-02 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
it's due this Friday at 10pm central. :(

[identity profile] lovesrain44.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
You'll make it!!! Just keep on plugging, and look forward to your vacation.